I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist but I can see this coming from a mile away. Darrius Miller has committed to UK. What does that have to do with a conspiracy you ask? Darrius Miller is on of the 3 top players in the state of KY along with MSU recruit Scotty Hopson and Indiana commit Bud Mackey. Let me set up my train of thought for this conspiracy. Scotty is ranked as high as #9 overall, Bud Mackey is #32 and Darrius Miller is # 35. If you do the research these reankings are constant throughout the recruiting rankings. Want more? Scotty's junior season was not recognized by many papers in the state after committing to MSU for their annual all state teams. Now take a look at this article: http://www.1570thezone.com/CatsBlog/PermaLink,guid,40f307ea-aadf-443f-96d2-4d6533fe4b7c.aspx
Now that Darrius has given his verbal to KY, the bluecat faithful will tell themselves that their was never really any need for Scotty's services anyway. So according to the people who watch and rate these players for a living I call conspiracy right now. Darrius Miller will be KY's Mr. Basketball for 2008 and Scotty will be snubbed b/c he has kept his word and plans on signing in the fall. Don't worry Mr. Hopson, the KY press may take away the awards rightfully yours, but they can't take away the beat downs to come you'll put on to the bluecat nation. Fly high Mr. Hopson, your MSU faithful will be right here waiting at Humphrey Coliseum to "Beamed Up" for the Scotty Hopson Show.
Hebrews 12:2 Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
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I don't know about "conspiracy" - this kind of thing happens in every state.
if scotty plays well this year for his HS team, he most certainly will be named a McD AA. and if that happens, whether or not he is the KY Mr Basketball is no longer important...at least to me.
currently on the team, we have a few Mr Basketballs. i know Ben was, and i know Barry was. i think Jamont was too up in TN. was Jarvis?
anyways, we dont have any McD AAs on our team. Jamont was a Parade AA third team coming out of HS, but no McD AAs. getting someone that is a McD AA is gold in temrs of recruiting. having other kids see that we are able to land McD AAs is invaluable.
just my two hundreths of a dollar.
-mstateglfr
I can't disagree with that.
Great point about him being a burger boy.
Scotty didn't make the first or 2nd team all state last year in the State's largest paper. Never underestimate how the media in places like Kentucky and Louisiana will operate. ZD
I wouldn't count Osby out 100% of becoming a McD AA next year. He has a chance to put up HUGE numbers next year. How awesome would it be to have 2 in one year!?
Can't count Osby out.
Lets keep up with it and see if they slight Scotty for being a man of his word. Your "conspiracy theory" sounds very believable. Look for Scotty to be snubbed in Big Blue land this year.
Who cares though... he'll be a hero in Maroon and White land!
Kentucky fans are a joke.They go through all kinds of "rationalizations" of why Scotty won't get "Mr. Basketball" and Miller will, but Scotty is so much better than Miller that it isn't even funny.The Kentucky fans, of course, KNOW THIS, but they are so blind and prejudiced that they can't admit it.
Let me give you a graphic example of "UK hypocrisy". One of the3 greatest players ever out of the state of Kentucky was a Superstar named Darrel Griffith in 1976.Kentucky wanted him so bad they could taste it, but Griffith was not a UK fan and did not like UK.He decided to sign with the University of Louisville, and although he was miles above everybody else, he was not elected Mr.Basketball in Kentucky! He thought it was funny, just laughed about it, and went on to become an All-American.He said that when he called the Kentucky coach and told him that he was not going to attend UK, that the coach just hung up on him.He laughed again, because by then the had learned that that is what Kentucky fans are like!
That's Okay, Scotty, don't worry about being Kentucky "Mr. Basketball", you will be a MacDonald's All-American, and the other guy won't be!
You will also be a college All-American and the other guy won't be.So just do like Darrell Griffith did, and laugh about it!
I wrote that article you have linked there. I'm not sure what about my article contributes to your "conspiracy theory." Nowhere in it do I say anything slighting Hopson. The only mention of his name refers to the rumor started by kentuckyink.com about him still having big time interest in UK. What I then link is an article by my partner, JR, who interviewed Scotty about it affirming that he is MSU-bound. So, that article does nothing for your claim, but thanks for linking it anyway.
Now, about this theory. I know very little about his Mr. Basketball chances, but I do know his reputation as a player. The kid has all the talent in the world. He is likely the most talented player in the state in his class. However, the Mr. Basketball award is not a most talented player award, but rather a MVP-type award. It is for that player who brought their team further than any other player in the state did. Or at least that's how it's supposed to be and how we like to do it around here.
Scotty seems to get complacent at times in a 5-man game, halfcourt situation. It's almost as if he's bored or in a different game sometimes. That isn't to say he's not a team player; it says that he isn't a "scheme" player. He would much rather have his team rush up the court and improvise rather than run a play.
Don't get me wrong, I would flip my lid to have Scotty at UK. You guys are getting some kind of talent. BUT, there is something to be said around here about a homegrown talent that WANTS to stay home. Therefore, we as fans WANT to have Darius more. He has much the same game as Scotty, but puts up better high school numbers. Scotty is the better AAU/camp player. But ask yourself this: which is more important in evaluating college potential?
Now, reading some of the comments on this post would give someone the impression that you guys are upset about UK fans not being SO AMAZED at what MSU is doing in the recruiting world. You act like you are ashamed we aren't cringing at our "loss."
Want to prove me wrong? Take the high road. Don't be so bitter. MSU is trying to build something. Don't show your traditional inferiority by analyzing what we think and speak about your efforts. Instead, just be proud of what is happening, enjoy your Kentucky-raised talent, and look forward to being much more competitive against UK and the like.
To the post above, thanks for coming on and posting. But you haven't done much to diffuse any stereotypes we and much of the SEC have about UK fans.
"dont show your traditional inferiority by analyzing what we think"
So MSU fans are inferior to UK fans because you happen to follow a school with a bunch of rings. Please don't go that route. We are not the bitter ones. What do we have to be bitter about? We just find a couple things funny about how UK fans and press have reacted to Hopson's disinterest. Half of you still think hes going to UK, and the media sure like to distort things to make it seem like there's a chance; The other half have given up - wrote him off as "not a scheme player, whose mind drifts into the clouds whilst he dribbles the ball"
And "there is something to be said around here about a homegrown talent that WANTS to stay home" WOW. Haha. SO courageous - for a kid who grows up in a state obsessed with UK, with all the pressure of his coaches and media to go there - who is expected by all of the above to attend UK, IF he gets that golden offer. And if they deny, they are sent to an asylum. I actually think Scotty Hopson's immunity to all of the above is something to admire.
And when Gordon goes to the NBA next year, there will be a spot opening up for Hopson.... "Kentucky Killer" (only half joking)
Thanks for taking your superior time to come to our inferior blog. Have a superior day sir.
"Instead, just be proud of what is happening, enjoy your Kentucky-raised talent, and look forward to being much more competitive against UK and the like."
Competive against UK - Some people have a very short memory.
Kentucky fan, you'll have to excuse us. We all grew up outside the bubble. We chose Mississippi State and we're all loyal to the Bulldogs. I know it's hard to believe, but there are people who don't fall prostrate on a blue matt every morning and bow facing Rupp.
As for Scotty's shortcomings. I've seen him play at UHA and in AAU. At UHA, Coach Keller looked disinterested and resigned from his chair at the end of the bench. The first time I saw this was the 5th game of thier season, last year. If the players deserve so much criticism you should have seen the Coach. He looked like Archie Bunker waiting for Edith to scurry in with a beer.
Scotty hasn't even begun his SR season yet, so he will continue to develop on and off the court. I understand he's a great student and a humble kid. We're elated that he's chosen to be one of us.
Congrats on Miller, we'll see y'all in the Hump. ZD
Tho I'm beginning to realize their is no winning with a crowd like this, I will continue to speak.
No one has still let me in on what my article had to do with this "theory."
And tho you've tried to flip the script on me, you still sound like your searching for approval. I know that comment gets you all fired up so you are rendered unable to take a subjective look at the thought, but think of it this way...
You guys STEAL a top 10 talent out of traditional powere UK's backyard. You did this before we had a chance with the kid (FWIW I think I remember him being rated in the 40's or so before the AAU circuit). Congratulations, really. And if it makes you feel goog about your accomplishment ... we, like fans of any big state school who lost their in-state talent, were deeply upset about it - not at him so much, but at circumstance.
You've got a great kid and basketball talent. Personally, I still have my reservations on his ability to mesh in with a team, but like the poster above maybe it has to do with his particular high school. I don't know. I know what I see.
And about the Mr. Basketball thing you all seem to covet so much ... it REALLY isn't that big of a deal is it? That's what I mean by "our approval." Why would it matter what KY high school coaches, media and what not think of your recruit if the NATION thinks he's All-American talent?
We have a DT on our FB team named Ricky Lumpkin from Tennessee. Ricky was a 2-star rated player, YET, as a DT, he won Tennessees 4A Mr. Football award. It really has so much more to do with team value as opposed to individual talent.
It's like the difference between being a heisman and being the #1 pick in the draft. Both are to "the best player" right? Wrong. Just look at last year ... where did Troy Smith go in the draft?
Don't get so worked up about it guys. It's no big thing.
And "traditional inferiority" refers to the FACT that in MOST years past, UK has dominated MSU on the court. It has nothing to do with you as fans. Gosh, you pick a school you pick, that doesn't make you in greater or lesser than another fan.
And "anonymous," I don't get where you come off thinking KY fans and media hate the guy. Sure there's a few fans here and there that just hate a guy for not going to his school. The majority are happy with what we're picked up, amazed at his steadfastness, and a few (kentuckyink.com) are still hoping he'll change his mind and reconsider. Don't group us together like that.
I also think you are romanticizing the pressure that is put on a kid around here. Yes, the interest in a big in-state talent is heavier than elsewhere, but that just comes with the territory. I imagine most in his inner circle have been telling him to do what is best for him, not what is best for UK. Media are interested, yes, but why wouldn't we be? It's a good story. FWIW, there's another big time recruit in the state going to a rival ... Bud Mackey to INDIANA! Why are we not all over him? Because their has been no report saying me might still be interested in UK. That's not so true with Scotty. That report probably isn't true, I think WE debunked it, but it came out nonetheless.
It never ends. Imagine having to deal with a message board full of guys like this. Thank god I'm a State fan.
"you still sound like your searching for approval"
No one here wants or will ever want the approval of you or anyone related to or claiming to be related to the University of Kentucky. The topic arose simply out of our interest the way players committed to UK are treated as opposed to players committed elsewhere. It was just an observation. Points were also made in the discussion referring to past players in similar situations as Hopson - Supporting the idea that players committed to UK are more prone to awards and praise. We are simply entertained by the situation. No one here wants a pat on the back.
"And "traditional inferiority" refers to the FACT that in MOST years past, UK has dominated MSU on the court.It has nothing to do with you as fans."
I fail to see why this FACT has anything to do with this discussion. Living in the past is a dangerous thing and will get you nowhere. Do you think if you took the banners down and knitted new uniforms out of them the success would translate over? And just a pointer: if you don't mean the fans when you use words like "inferior"... just say "UK" instead of "WE". UK fans have a bad habit of talking down to fans of other schools, and please don't argue that FACT.
"Don't get so worked up about it guys. It's no big thing."
I wish I had been warned before reading this so to spare my keyboard the coke I was drinking. I could write an essay about how hilarious those two sentences are. A UK fan telling State fans not to get "worked up" over a basketball recruit. I think I may cry.
"You did this before we had a chance with the kid"
On the excuse-O-meter I'd rate this a 2/10.
The conspiracy must hold water with this many comments.
Jared, thanks for joining us over here in Bulldog/Hopson country.
As for what the article had to do with a conspiracy theory...
The Conspiracy Theory is Arliss'. His Theory is that KY will "dis" Hopson now that they've got Miller. I think that his point in referencing your article was simply to show that Miller has in fact committed to KY. Therefore, fans like yourself will find a way to magically elevate him to become the top recruit in KY, and will find take jabs at Hopson in the process (you didn't jab Hopson in your post, but, you certainly jabbed him on this one!).
At any rate, glad to have you on board.
"In Him we live and move and exist." Apostle Paul to the Athenian intellegentia - Acts 17.
I think you nailed it Tom.
Well, i guess I'll stop arguing. What I meant by "it's not a big deal" is that the Mr. Basketball award is pretty meaningless.
But anywho, Arliss, Tom, thanks for being hospitable, and, FWIW, I love that you drop verses to end your verse. It's not very oftne you see someone blend Faith with the sports world. Keep it up guys.
Also, I've meant no disrespec to MSU, and especially to MSU fans. I have no quarrels. I'm just letting you know what it sounds like if you all were to bring this to a brighter light.
I've been trying to tell you all that you don't NEED these things you've been discussing. Being upset that UK fans arent crowning your pick of the big 3(Hopson, Miller, Mackey) as their mr basketball just because he is rated the highest, or w/e, sounds like an unconscious yearning for approval. Maybe it isn't, but that's how it sounds.
No harm done. Enjoy Scotty, for he is an awesome bball talent and, as far as my experience with him goes, a great kid as well. And feel free to link visit my site and link my articles as you please. If their is ever an article I come across on here that aids a story, I'll be more than happy to link it up.
verses to end your post* I mean.
Your always welcome to comment here Jared and I'm looking forward to Jan. 15 when the Cats come to Starkvegas. Hope you can attend, the Hump will be a rockin.
jared, thanks for posting your views on Hopson, UK, and the likes.
though i dont agree with all of them, it was still appreciated.
basketball talk of any sorts is nice right now, even if it is with a member of the elitist nation of blue! :)
-mstateglfr
Arliss, I might try to hit up the radio station for a media pass to it. Other than that I don't think i'd be able to attend. I've always heard the hump is a neat bball atmosphere.
Also, it's nice to be able to "argue" sports with an opponent in a relatively civil manner. We don't often have that luxury with our big 3 local rivals (IU, UT, and little brother(UL)).
..."Elitest nation of blue"... hey, I take offense to that. Tho it has some merit ;).
What in the world was Pitino thinking by going back to UL. If he builds a powerhouse there, it could be civil war in that state as obsessed as they are. We need to pray for them. Seriously
Jared,
KyDog here, born and raised in Lexington,Kentucky,and Mississippi State Bulldog to the core!
Your "explanation"/rationalization of Kentucky's "Mr. Basketball" award was pure comic genius!Thanks for providing us with an obviously tongue-in-cheek parody of the "self-deluding UK mindset"!
What a good "roll in the aisles" you have provided us with, and we are truly in debt to you for your generous "gift of laughter".
One final note to Uk fans:
There is little in the world more off-putting than a group of Philistines who believe that they are somehow less responsible for the ignorance with which they live their lives because a University in their state has done pretty well at a kid's game.
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